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This review is transcluded from Talk:Spelt/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Chiswick Chap (talk · contribs) 19:38, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: LEvalyn (talk · contribs) 03:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Actually, I'd like to review this one too. I may not be super speedy with two reviews going on at once, but after I read and thought about this one, I realised I'd be disappointed if someone else beat me to it. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 03:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

All right, I have finished taking a look! Thanks for tackling one of these very tricky food articles. I have a few concerns below but they look eminently resolvable. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 07:29, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()
3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Comments

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  • I found the "Naming" section to be a challening entry to the article. What do you think about swapping this section with "Description", and possibly re-naming it something like "Confusion with other grains"? This section does not really seem to focus on the etymology (i.e. naming) of the word "spelt", but rather is clarifying some points of usage. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 04:30, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm having some trouble parsing these statements together: In the south of Germany and Switzerland in the Iron Age (750–15 BCE), it was a major type of wheat, while by 500 BCE, it had become widespread in the south of Britain. There is evidence that spelt cultivation increased in Iron Age Britain as damp regions of the country with heavy soils tolerated by spelt were being settled. During the Iron Age, there was spelt in Germany and Switzerland, but in the middle of the Iron Age it was widespread in south Britain, and during the Iron Age it increased in Britain? I think it's just a matter of the transition-words throwing me off, can you revisit? ~ L 🌸 (talk) 04:30, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I also found this sentence bumpy, with two "with"s: By 2014, the grain was popular in the UK with the crop being grown there as well as in Kazakhstan and Ukraine, with shortages reported ~ L 🌸 (talk) 04:30, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I did a light copy-edit; naturally if there are any changes you disagree with, please revert and we can discuss. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 04:30, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Images are good. Thanks for contributing the diagram of spelt origins! I do wonder if the husk image could go in "history" where there's a mention of husks making them suitable for cold climates, just so the images are more distributed throughout the article, but that's a minor aesthetic thought. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 07:29, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thinking about breadth, it looks like GAs for crop foods typically include some information on cultivation. (See parsnip, onion, rice, potato. Since this is much less of a widespread 'staple', perhaps there is less to say about how smelt is grown, but I wonder if "Products" could become "Cultivation and uses" with a bit of additional information? ~ L 🌸 (talk) 07:29, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Earwig picks up a two-sentence match at a random site that sells spelt, but to my eye it looks like Wikipedia came first. So, copyvio check looks fine. No sign of copyvio from non-web sources when I did the source check below. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 07:29, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

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  • My university library plug-in flags World Journal of Clinical Cases (used to support the information about gluten) as a "problematic journal". It reports, according to Cabells: Evident data that little to no peer review is being done and the journal claims to be "peer reviewed. The journal includes scholars on an editorial board without their knowledge or permission. The number of articles published has increased by 75% or more in the last year. I have no concerns about the accuracy of the actual cited info, but does this information technically need to comply with WP:MEDRS? Should another source be found? ~ L 🌸 (talk) 04:30, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I also checked 10, 12, 21, and 33 as numbered in this diff. All look good, no comments. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 07:29, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]